Waikato leaders Te Moanaroa and Te Awaitaia

Kia ora Brett - if you zoom in on the you will see his name is written under his image. See: http://ndhadeliver.natlib.govt.nz/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE326941&dps_custom_att_1=tapuhi

I don't think Te Awa-i-taia would have been crouching, cowering subserviantly beside another chief, he had more Mana than that. This is after reading and studying his life. Has anyone verified this painting as being Te Awa-i-taia. I hope this can help a bit, I just hope this great man is not trivialised. I suppose it doesn't matter much really as it was all a long time ago

Ae, Moanaroa - Son of Tapatai aka. Punatoto. At the time of this painting, Te Awaitaia was the ruling chief of the Whaingaroa area, Whaingaroa having conquered by Ngati Mahanga from its previous owners (Ngati Koata, Ngati Toa, and some parts of Ngati Tahinga). This was known as the Battle of Huripopo, and was led by Tapatai, Father of Moanaroa. Uncontested and supreme. And as the contributor named "Ngati Hourua" has said there is much to be said in the way they are painted. Awaitaia was a war lord, but from a junior line, who rose to greatness by force of character, when they finally expelled Te Rauparaha and others from the west coast. Whereas Moanaroa was from the very senior line of Ngati Mahanga; and him crouching is an acknowledgement that as far as "tuakanatanga" goes, Moanaroa is the Senior/tuakana.

It is not uncommon to have multiple persons with the same name as well. However this Moanaroa, standing in a superior position to Awaitaia, is obviously the son of Tapatai ! Else the crouch would never have happened. Seriously, a chief will not lower himself for anything, unless the tuakanatanga is there.

Moanaroa, is common in Howe family, including me and my grandad.

Who can provide the uplines for this Te Moanaroa - as far as I am aware this particular Te Moanaroa was of the Ngaati Maahanga tribe, and is the reason why Te Awaitaia is kneeling at his feet.. because this particular Te Moanaroa was the eldest son of Tapatai Te Punatoto the paramount chief of Waikato in his time. And would be the only person Te Awaitaia was junior too....

kiaora Riki, I am your Aunty. Your Koro William is my Dads Cousin, your Nanny is Laura which makes her my aunt. I also know your mum Pania, she is my cousin. My grandmother, Miriama Moanaroa was your Koko Naes sister. The only female in their whanau. Miriama was my Dads mother. My dad, Richard, and Uncle Rauna are brothers.

Avice, kiaora, I am closely related to you on both the Moanaroa and Simon side. I know Rangikaahu. Tahinga was an Iwi, not a Hapu. Moanaroa and Turiwhati were brothers. Ben Rupapere, his daughter Rangi married a Gilgen. Hence David Gilgen. Rangi is with the Mormon Church.

I'm looking for whakapapa connection to my koroua who was Hoani/Hone Nopera/Noble. He was also known as Raiha in the maori land court records. His mother was called Raiharangihakume. John married Paeroa Te Koi of Ngati Te Ata.
I was brought up in tairawhiti on my mother's side.
I would really appreciate someone who has ngati mahanga whakapapa for me to trawl thru.
thanks Edda mcCabe

On my mothers side of the family Chief Te Para Haimona (Simon)of Ngaati Taahinga descendant of Te Wherowhero, our Homestead is called Rangikahu Te Akau. We are also related to the Te Moanaroa's and as far as I know Ngaati Taahinga was not a sub tribe to Tainui. Yes the McNish family and the Gilgens are also relations through marriage.We have a treasure of photo's that date back to the late 1800's along with legal land documents. If you go to the Maori land court in Hamilton you will be amazed at how much information on ancestors. Also the Mormon Temple can assist.

If anybody would like to make email contact with Tony McCracken, please do email me [email protected] and I will pass it on to him.